[composer]

I would like to know if the Private Messages / PM's are they really Private?

I have always understood that they were?

Seems I was wrong about that at this Forum at least?

[Fortigurn]

Yes they are, as far as ordinary members are concerned:

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Respect the privacy of others. Do not post or otherwise distribute private emails or private messages from other users without first obtaining their consent.

However, special provision has been made for the administration team:

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The adminstration team does reserve the right to read any personal messages via the board function if the need should arise.

You agreed to these guidelines, which are displayed publicly here in this forum, when you signed up. You agreed with the statement that the administration team can read any personal messages if the need should arise.

[composer]

Fortigurn, on Sep 5 2009, 12:51 AM, said:

Yes they are, as far as ordinary members are concerned:

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Respect the privacy of others. Do not post or otherwise distribute private emails or private messages from other users without first obtaining their consent.

However, special provision has been made for the administration team:

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The adminstration team does reserve the right to read any personal messages via the board function if the need should arise.

You agreed to these guidelines, which are displayed publicly here in this forum, when you signed up. You agreed with the statement that the administration team can read any personal messages if the need should arise.

Oh well, obviously PM's arent PM's at all.

[Fortigurn]

composer, on Sep 5 2009, 06:19 PM, said:

Oh well, obviously PM's arent PM's at all.

Yes they are. But it's pointless arguing with this anyway, you agreed with these guidelines when you signed up. Why did you even ask the question? Or did you just not read the guidelines at all when you signed up, even though you are required to read them when you register, and you have to affirm a statement that you have read them?

[composer]

Fortigurn, on Sep 5 2009, 10:37 PM, said:

composer, on Sep 5 2009, 06:19 PM, said:

Oh well, obviously PM's arent PM's at all.

Yes they are. But it's pointless arguing with this anyway, you agreed with these guidelines when you signed up. Why did you even ask the question? Or did you just not read the guidelines at all when you signed up, even though you are required to read them when you register, and you have to affirm a statement that you have read them?

I have never before heard of any one besides you here of divulging Private Messages without first obtaining the permission of the other party.

Sure your guidelines cover you for doing that, but as I said I have not heard of it being implemented before.

I now know they are not PM's at all, but that term is a misnomer here.

I would like to say more publicly as I certainly have nothing shameful to hide, however I have been warned via PM that I am not permitted to air my grievences openly or face potential banning, so that is a sure fire way of again silencing any fair criticism publicly here.

[Fortigurn]

composer, on Sep 6 2009, 10:19 AM, said:

I have never before heard of any one besides you here of divulging Private Messages without first obtaining the permission of the other party.

Then you clearly didn't read the guidelines at BTDF or here.

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Sure your guidelines cover you for doing that, but as I said I have not heard of it being implemented before.

Since it's clearly in the guidelines, why would it not be implemented here? The only issue here is that you failed to read the guidelines which you affirmed you had read and agreed with. The fault is entirely yours.

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I now know they are not PM's at all, but that term is a misnomer here.

What nonsense. They are private. Other forum members cannot read them. Only board staff members can read them, and only in specific circumstances.

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I would like to say more publicly as I certainly have nothing shameful to hide, however I have been warned via PM that I am not permitted to air my grievences openly or face potential banning, so that is a sure fire way of again silencing any fair criticism publicly here.

You are confusing two separate issues. This forum is not a place for you to air your personal grievances. It's not a place for anyone to air their personal grievances. It's a place for Bible discussion. If you have 'fair criticism' on the other hand, you're welcome to post it here. I doubt that you were warned not to share 'fair criticism'. Don't confuse the two.

[a servant]

composer, on Sep 6 2009, 12:19 PM, said:

Fortigurn, on Sep 5 2009, 10:37 PM, said:

composer, on Sep 5 2009, 06:19 PM, said:

Oh well, obviously PM's arent PM's at all.

Yes they are. But it's pointless arguing with this anyway, you agreed with these guidelines when you signed up. Why did you even ask the question? Or did you just not read the guidelines at all when you signed up, even though you are required to read them when you register, and you have to affirm a statement that you have read them?

I have never before heard of any one besides you here of divulging Private Messages without first obtaining the permission of the other party.

Sure your guidelines cover you for doing that, but as I said I have not heard of it being implemented before.

I now know they are not PM's at all, but that term is a misnomer here.

I would like to say more publicly as I certainly have nothing shameful to hide, however I have been warned via PM that I am not permitted to air my grievences openly or face potential banning, so that is a sure fire way of again silencing any fair criticism publicly here.

Actually on most forums, probably all of them the administrators have the control of all messages if required or they would not be administrators. The job of administrators is to be able to control harrassment and other problems on a site

[Timotheos]

I have unrestricted access to all admin functions on this forum and I don't know of anyway to read others private messages. I could probably dig in the database and find them but I've never felt recourse to do this. We do reserve the right in the event there was some sort of abuse of the system such as spamming etc. So rest assured that your PMs are really as private as your emails. :ok: